September 22, 2018   52 notes

nimblejack3 asked: man, i like your MtF transformation stuff, but the female-to-female bimbofication strikes a little too close to "women are objects" for me to be comfortable. it's gonna be a no from me dawg, i'll have to stop following your art.

maxamillionsaberhagen:

sortimid:

That’s fair.

Bimbofication is an inherently sexist fantasy. I’ve said it before. I can’t deny its appeal to me, personally, but I understand that the ideas presented are problematic and that different people will have different tolerance levels. I’m sorry it also spoils my MtF stuff for you but I completely understand.

NSFW usually makes us think of tiddies. However, BimboTF often lacks nudity, allowing it to sidestep NSFW filters. It never occurred to me before, but your message inspired me to put a lot of my pieces on deviantArt behind “mature” filters for being ideologically sensitive. It’s not a perfect solution, but at least it sets them apart. I invite other bimbofication artists to consider doing the same, if you’re not already way ahead of me. I also realized I hadn’t set my tumblr to explicit. Eek! It’ll likely impact my traffic but at least I’ll sleep easier.

This is a good opportunity to reiterate that my work depicts sexual fantasies. It’s meant for adults to indulge a fetish and should never, in any way, inform anyone’s views on gender (or anything else, honestly, except for maaaaybe style). If you use bimbofication porn to justify real-world sexist behavior and beliefs, you need to read more books and do some serious soul searching (unless you’re with a consenting adult, of course).

I might draw porn but I’m still an artist: I want to make the world a better place. I sometimes wonder if my work does more harm than good… I think bimbofication art is a harmless way to indulge problematic fantasies, but only as long as it’s emphatically clear they’re just that: fantasies. Repeating that is the reason I’m answering this publicly. That said, I’m keenly aware my livelihood depends on maintaining that belief :/

Thanks for the ask! You gave me plenty to chew on. I’d love to hear more people’s thoughts!

Oh gods this is going to be awkward as hell but here we go…

I think there’s room in the bimbofication fetish for stories and art that aren’t misogynistic, power fantasies.

Walk with me on this one. You spend enough time on Tumblr following Bimbofication you’ll find girls out there who legitimately want to be Bimbos or are Bimbos. Across the spectrum @sweetsurrenderdoll, @callmemollymaybe, and @chaos-doll when she takes a holiday. That’s just off the top of my head and I know for damn sure there’s more than that. For some of these girls this isn’t just smut, to them it’s #goals, it’s a dream made real, it’s an expression of a D/s relationship, it’s empowerment.

Please understand that no matter how inherently sexist bimbofication can be on the surface there is a depth there to be explored. We live stressful lives, burdened by thoughts and obligations. How can anyone not see the appeal of turning off your brain and slamming down that joy buzzer for awhile? Where I’m at the moment I can certainly see the appeal. I’d jump at the chance to be a himbo for a little while (zero-consequences of course but that’s why it’s a fantasy).

Bimbofication can be inherently mysgonistic in the same way a BDSM relationship can be inherently abusive. Or it can be done properly with a conscious understanding of a person’s wants and needs on both sides of the entire thing. Bimbofication is a kink like any other, and it has taken me far too long to get to that understanding. If you apply the same principles to Bimbofication that you do to any other kink suddenly a lot of misconceptions about the fetish fall away.

If you like the mysgonistic types of bimbofication that’s fine, as long as you realize it’s a fetish and a fantasy.

If you like bimbofication where it’s more about the power exchange that’s fine, as long as you realize it’s a fetish and a fantasy. 

If you like bimbofication where it’s an escape and an opportunity to take a break that’s fine, as long as you realize it’s a fetish and a fantasy.

We’re all real people (except the bots) and we all have kinks. We may have them but they don’t define us. Like our kinks we are deeper than what we appear on the surface.

Always remember, safe, sane, consensual.

This has been a rambling, awkward response to an absolute master and legend within bimbofication and transformation in general. If you don’t follow @sortimid and you’re into TF in all it’s wonder you should change that and follow him.

I only disagree with your comparison: abusive relationships are a bad analogy. Abusive relationships should not be tolerated. Misogynistic bimbofication is more akin to the real physical pain a BDSM scene can involve: it’s something people actively avoid outside the bedroom (and would never inflict on a stranger) even if they enjoy it in private.

Other than that, I completely agree, I just didn’t want to get into a “not ALL bimbofication” argument. There’s definitely an aspirational side to the fetish (I hope WWBtB was a good example), but I also enjoy forced TFs and I didn’t want to separate “good” from “bad” bimbofication. The core concept is a product of patriarchical values and the male gaze but that doesn’t mean it can’t still be empowering on a personal level.

Thanks for sharing! 

(@maxamillionsaberhagen is a great writer and super active in the community! check him out!)

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    Reblogging because I like to see this going around again but also Sortmid remains a legend and I’m honored he would tag...
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    Bimbofication is very empowering for me and for a lot of other girls! But I have definitely had some very sexist...
  5. sortimid said: I don’t know what else I can do beyond recognizing the themes are problematic, pointing out they’re only intended as sexual fantasies and understanding some people will be turned off.
  6. sortimid said: Yeah, I get you. Some of my work can read as “put them feminazis in their place” regardless of my intentions. My art has been co-opted to spread hate before - another reason I want to very plainly stand against sexism. While I completely disagree with these ideas, I still want to explore them as sexual fantasies.
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  8. nimblejack3 said: it rides too close to home and too close to the imaginary “angry stuck-up feminazi that needs a man to show them how to behave” stereotype that’s idolised by misogynists
  9. nimblejack3 said: I’ve loved your female bimbofication before, such as the one with the Assassin’s Creed protagonist, but with the above context it makes me too uncomfortable to stick around.
  10. nimblejack3 said: to clarify, it’s not female bimbofication that makes me uncomfortable, it’s the implication that a woman who is angry, upset and (apparently) trying to deal with sexual harassment is undesirable/incomplete and will only be whole when she’s objectified and willing to participate in her own hypersexualisation.
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